How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

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How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:37 am

Hi I'm trying to create a good Brass which in vastly used in Architecture.

Following the "Stainless steel material" (introduced by Whaat) I've tryied to blend the two NK file ("cu.nk" and "Zncdte0.nk") but the result was no good :( What i get is a lighter copper but still a copper....

On the Web there is no sign of a Brass NK file...

Someone has an idea?

Is there a "phisical solution" (in Indigo) to my problem or I have to "fake" the brass material? :shock:

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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by OnoSendai » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:06 am

Well, there's a blend, as you said, apart from that there's no current solution apart from trying to pick the specular reflectivity colour yourself.

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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by psor » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:59 am

@delle

I recommend to use rgb2nk kindly provided by tinman, developer of renderlight. You'll enjoy it for sure! :D ;)




GUI of the little yet powerful program.

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And don't tell me it's like faking, just use it and stop thinking about it. ;)
For the sake of it I'll attach two zipped .nk files as example. Enjoy!


brass_(light+dark)_EXAMPLE_by_psor.jpg
Just a quick example feel free to create your own.
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by Borgleader » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:13 pm

that is pretty fecking cool :)
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by pixie » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:14 pm

I wonder if Specular Reflectivity could be used to achieve the same affect

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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by psor » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:48 pm

pixie wrote:I wonder if Specular Reflectivity could be used to achieve the same affect

Of course it is! :twisted: :lol: :wink:






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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:21 pm

This is what I've got adding some gold to the "alloy".

This Material has 25% of gold inside (in effect it is a little bit expensive as brass :wink: )

EDIT Material composition: 25% Gold, 50% Copper and 25 % Zinc

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<material>
    <name>Material_11_ALLOY1_LAYER0</name>
    <phong>
      <nk_data>nkdata\cu.nk</nk_data>
      <exponent><constant>200</constant></exponent>
    </phong>
  </material>
  <material>
    <name>Material_11_ALLOY1_LAYER1</name>
    <phong>
      <nk_data>nkdata\Zncdte0.nk</nk_data>
      <exponent><constant>200</constant></exponent>
    </phong>
  </material>
  <material>
    <name>Material_11_ALLOY1</name>
    <blend>
      <a_name>Material_11_ALLOY1_LAYER0</a_name>
      <b_name>Material_11_ALLOY1_LAYER1</b_name>
      <blend>
        <constant>0.333333</constant>
      </blend>
      <step_blend>false</step_blend>
    </blend>
  </material>
  <material>
    <name>Material_11_LAYER2</name>
    <phong>
      <nk_data>nkdata\au.nk</nk_data>
      <exponent><constant>200</constant></exponent>
    </phong>
  </material>
  <material>
    <name>previewmaterial</name>
    <blend>
      <a_name>Material_11_ALLOY1</a_name>
      <b_name>Material_11_LAYER2</b_name>
      <blend>
        <constant>0.250000</constant>
      </blend>
      <step_blend>false</step_blend>
    </blend>
  </material>
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:40 pm

I've changed a little bit the composition of the Alloy, now it is:

Gold 25%, Copper 63%, Zinc 12%
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by Doug Armand » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:50 pm

delle wrote:I've changed a little bit the composition of the Alloy, now it is:

Gold 25%, Copper 63%, Zinc 12%
Thats looking really good.

I've been playing around with similar combo. This is my latest. It really depends on quite what kind of brass effect your after as it can vary a lot.

its a mix of mix of Copper,Zinc,ChromiumSilicide and Gold to try and achieve a light brass material


btw for those interested its been uploaded and is called 'Brass_uing_Copper_Zinc_ChromiumSilicide_Gold'
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:08 am

New Values:

Gold 18%, Copper 70% and Zinc 12%
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by Doug Armand » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:49 am

Nice work. I think yours is the more 'brassy' :wink:
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:05 am

Doug Armand wrote:Nice work. I think yours is the more 'brassy' :wink:
Thank you Doug, I'm doing some new test in order to get different brass flavors (e.g. Red brass).

Stay tuned... :wink:

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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by Doug Armand » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:42 am

delle wrote:
Doug Armand wrote:Nice work. I think yours is the more 'brassy' :wink:
Thank you Doug, I'm doing some new test in order to get different brass flavors (e.g. Red brass).

Stay tuned... :wink:
Cool - don't forget to upload them to the Material database :wink:
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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:15 am

Doug Armand wrote:
delle wrote:
Doug Armand wrote:Nice work. I think yours is the more 'brassy' :wink:
Thank you Doug, I'm doing some new test in order to get different brass flavors (e.g. Red brass).

Stay tuned... :wink:
Cool - don't forget to upload them to the Material database :wink:
Done :wink:

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Re: How to create an Alloy? (e.g. 65% Copper+35 % Zinc = Brass)

Post by delle » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:24 am

New Test: Gold 5%, Copper 62%, Zinc 33%
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