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Support for Skatter ?

Post by jiminy-billy-bob » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:16 am

Skatter v1 is finally here! :D

Get it now!

Skatter is a powerfull scattering extension for SketchUp.
Render hundreds of thousands of objects without overloading SketchUp. Scatter them parametrically or paint them by hand, while keeping control over collisions, camera clipping, rotation, scale, translation, randomness and density based on altitude, slope, falloffs and more.

Learn all about it : http://getskatter.com

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Hello OnoSendai and Whaat,

I'm curently developping a scattering plugin for Sketchup, called "Skatter". I'd like to know if you're interested to make it work with Indigo.

It is not released yet, it'll come out in a few weeks/months. One of its main features is a "Render Only" option. It allows to scatter components that will be rendered but not displayed in the viewport. That way, we can generate hundreds of thousands of instances while keeping a very lightweight model. (Because even a large number of proxies can be heavy)
Of course we can choose to disable this feature and generate regular component instances.

Here is a preview video of the current alpha version (with Thea Render) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQHUN0IvgLs


The way it works is pretty simple. Skatter stores the position/rotation/scale informations in a hash/array that any render engine can read and use.
The hash is in a shared namespace called "Common", and its name is "render_instances".
Its structure is as is :

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{ 
Sketchup.active_model.definitions.entityID => { 
	"plugin" => {
		comp_def => [
			{:transformation => trans1},
			{:transformation => trans2},
			...
			]
		}
	}
}
Sketchup.active_model.definitions.entityID is used to differentiate models on OSX, as we can have multiple models opened in one Sketchup instance.
"plugin" is the plugin name. This level is necessary so we don't overwrite each other's infos. But as you read only, it's irrelevant to you.
comp_def is the component definition object.
trans1 is a transformation object.

To read it is pretty simple in ruby :

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modelID = Sketchup.active_model.definitions.entityID
if defined?(Common.render_instances) && Common.render_instances[modelID]
	for plugin_name, comp_defs in Common.render_instances[modelID]
		for comp_def, insts in comp_defs
			for inst in insts
				transform = inst[:transformation]
				#Then do your stuff using comp_def, and transform...
			end#for
		end#for
	end#for
end#if
The Hash is in a "Common" namespace so that everybody can add their stuff to it. This means that if you add support for it, you will automatically support Skatter, but also every future plugin from other developpers that want to use this system.
This is kind of an exchange standard between plugins and render engines.
For instance, Profile Builder could use this ;)


I'm aware that Indigo for Sketchup has a built-in scattering tool. But Skatter is a dedicated plugin, with a lot more features (and still more to come).
Please tell me if you're interested, so I can send you a copy.


Thanks,
jbb
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by bubs » Fri May 01, 2015 8:43 pm

Just saw your YouTube video for the alpha, looking really promising.

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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by cotty » Sat May 02, 2015 1:22 am

I would LOVE to use this together with Indigo!
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Tue May 05, 2015 12:08 am

I just saw the Skatter alpha clip on Ronen Bekerman's site, wow.

http://www.ronenbekerman.com/skatter-a- ... extension/

I'm hoping this can be accommodated in SkIndigo / Indigo.
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by lape » Tue May 05, 2015 5:37 am

+1!
any plans from Indigo developers to add this to SkIndigo? would be great!
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:33 pm

I just read on Sketchucation that Thea has already added support for Skatter, is this the case for Indigo as well?
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by jiminy-billy-bob » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:37 am

No, I have not heard back from Indigo's developpers, unfortunatly :(

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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:42 pm

jiminy-billy-bob wrote:No, I have not heard back from Indigo's developpers, unfortunatly :(
hmmmm, you know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets the oil...
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:35 am

Juju wrote:
jiminy-billy-bob wrote:No, I have not heard back from Indigo's developpers, unfortunatly :(
hmmmm, you know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets the oil...
bump!

release of this extension / plugin is imminent...
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Oscar J » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:45 am

I'm sure they'll look into it once the dust have settled with 4.0. Seems like a great feature, wish it was available to blender. :)

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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:05 pm

Oscar J wrote:I'm sure they'll look into it once the dust have settled with 4.0. Seems like a great feature, wish it was available to blender. :)
You could do a workaround workflow from SketchUp to Blender using a SketchUp to Blender Exporter, see the link below:

http://www.indigorenderer.com/forum/vie ... 17&t=13579
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by snorky » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:21 am

Eureka!!!

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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by Juju » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:08 pm

snorky wrote:Eureka!!!
only two things to consider before getting too excited

1. Skatter is still to be released, it seems like the release date is imminent according to a communication early in November 2015.
2. Indigo has to support Skatter, currently it doesn't look like this is in process as the Indigo team is working on version 4. Some beta testing output from Thea seems quite promising...
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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by snorky » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:34 pm

:cry:
Juju wrote:
snorky wrote:Eureka!!!
only two things to consider before getting too excited

1. Skatter is still to be released, it seems like the release date is imminent according to a communication early in November 2015.
2. Indigo has to support Skatter, currently it doesn't look like this is in process as the Indigo team is working on version 4. Some beta testing output from Thea seems quite promising...

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Re: Support for Skatter ?

Post by cotty » Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:25 pm

Just want to add a little ping and my amazement that no one from the Indigo team is responding here?
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