Stop before attempting an Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon install

WytRaven · Post by **WytRaven** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:27 am

Just a warning that you may find yourself the proud owner of a completely dead system if you attempt an Ubuntu 7.10 installation at the moment. The load on the repositories is so high at the moment that it is causing installations to hang whilst trying to configure apt. Repos are failing and the Ubuntu installer isn't intelligent enough to figure out that after 9 million attempts to contact a repo...well maybe it isn't there so lets move on...nope it just hangs indefinitely trying to contact the dead repo.

I am writing this from a Live CD as I cannot complete an Ubuntu or UbuntuStudio installation at this point. Of course due to the fact that the installer did get far enough to format it's partitions I can now no longer boot Vista either as GRUB is paralysed.

It's all fun isn't it.

What get's me is that the Ubuntu people must have had some idea that this would happen right? I mean theyve been firing up the community for its release for weeks. Did they think that dedicated Ubuntu users would all line up and in an orderly fashion download and install Gutsy Gibbon in groups of 3 or 4 at a time??

Not happy...

dougal2 · Post by **dougal2** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:48 am

haha.

i tried a gutsy install on my powerbook a week or so ago - only to find that either the kernel was broken or it fouled up the bootloader settings.
that needed a reformat to fix. it's now running gutsy quite happily.

i've not done it yet on my desktop - mainly because i'm in a catch22 with networkmanager WPA wireless support. it has no net access until i upgrade, and can't upgrade due to no WPA support grrr

at some point i'll have to drop back to WEP temporarily just to upgrade my machine.
(this may be a bcm43xx or wpasupplicant issue though).

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:49 am

I have gutsy installed and working perfectly. Possibly got in before the rush. Sadly, Blender crashes on it (it's the 64bit build) whenever I go to camera view. I think it's my graphics card though.

WytRaven · Post by **WytRaven** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:13 am

Well I'm finally back in UbuntuStudio 7.10....took about 20 install attempts but I'm back in finally

joegiampaoli · Post by **joegiampaoli** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:16 am

I always wait a couple of months before upgrading my ubuntu, till I make sure everything is a bit more stable and solid as a rock.

zsouthboy · Post by **zsouthboy** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:16 am

The original install should *not* have failed, Wyt.

If you're installing from LiveCD, there is no repository use... so it shouldn't have failed.

What exactly happened?

You can, with some guidance, recover your MBR from a liveCD, though.

WytRaven · Post by **WytRaven** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:26 am

trust me...it 'uses' repositories...not to get anything from but to configure apt

Phr0stByte · Post by **Phr0stByte** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:28 am

I did a dist upgrade to the developement version of Gutsy months ago - it has been running happily - and still is

manitwo · Post by **manitwo** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:05 am

i'm on gutsy since months

Nortmobile · Post by **Nortmobile** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:08 am

Gutsy upgrade went find with me. The only thing that went bad was I borked my wireless card config. When I get sometime I'll fix that. I think I just grabbed the wrong driver.

zsouthboy · Post by **zsouthboy** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:41 am

WytRaven wrote:trust me...it 'uses' repositories...not to get anything from but to configure apt

Yes - apt repository on the CD with all the packages to install. I know.

I'm saying that that should not (and does not) involve the state of the ubuntu servers.

I'm not disagreeing with you that you had a problem - I'm trying to figure out what went wrong.

@Nort: your wireless card is now supported by default. uninstall ndiswrapper, and then click "Enable" in the restricted drivers applet. It'll work perfectly, and you won't need to enter a damn password every time (for gnome keyring)

WytRaven · Post by **WytRaven** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:10 am

zsouthboy just do a search on ubuntu gutsy installation and configuring apt and you should turn something up. I believe the problem is with it checking it's list of repositories an either just pinging them to see if they still exist or attempting to download updated package lists from them.

I was most definitely not the only one to suffer this issue today.

Silverman · Post by **Silverman** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:15 pm

I have feisty fawn installed (7.04) although I dual boot and use Vista most of the time. I'm wondering what are the differences? Is it worth risking a dead computer to upgrade? Took me a while to get internet connection and Beryl configured last time.

WytRaven · Post by **WytRaven** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:06 pm

compiz-fuzion is painless to get running with 7.10 even on ATI. With ATI you just need to do an apt-get install xserver-xgl and logoff/on and voila hardware accelerated compiz. I believe that under ATI/xgl it's still less than perfect but ATI has promised linux drivers of similar caliber to the nVidia ones by year end. This assumes of course that you already installed fglrx when prompted automatically on first boot, again painless.

joegiampaoli · Post by **joegiampaoli** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:21 pm

Or you can use Alberto Milone's Envy script to install the official ATI or NVIDIA drivers from their real website, I had to do it that way this time with 7.04 because before with 6.10 I was able to download the official driver from Nvidia and compile the kernel headers for my box, but with Envy it's much easier....

You can check it here....

http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html

Stop before attempting an Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon install

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