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mimiWielki · Post by **mimiWielki** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:20 am

Cześć!Jak się macie?

it's my first post here

desing by jaro.slaw

C&C are welcome.

Thanx Ono for awesome renderer.

dougal2 · Post by **dougal2** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:37 am

Looks pretty impressive. I like the steam on the coffee, and the image on the glass door.

However, is the TV supposed to be half way into the kitchen?

Vanessa07 · Post by **Vanessa07** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:58 am

Very nice and complex scene

You should bevel some edge, in the bathroom, I don't think the chair material is good, it's plastic not glass. Tha apples' material looks like plastic, a bit too reflective.

Post by **OnoSendai** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:36 am

Hi mimiWielki

Very nice renders!
Which version of Indigo are you using?

BbB · Post by **BbB** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:43 am

I like the last one especially. But I agree the chairs have a problem. Both the material and the model, unless the surface is meant to be so rough.

BbB · Post by **BbB** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:45 am

I like the last one especially. But I agree the chairs have a problem. Both the material and the model, unless the surface is meant to be so rough. Also, there's a bit too much noise-removal going on here for my taste. You should let these render for longer and at higher resolution and downsample them.
Apart from that, mood, composition, modeling - everything looks pretty solid!

Zom-B · Post by **Zom-B** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:45 am

Cześć Big One.... nice shoot!

Its hard to comment something else then "wow, great work dude, keep them coming!"...
The only thing that doesn't seems to fit is a blue handle in the bathroom on the first pic O.o

So keep them comin'

Do widzenia

mimiWielki · Post by **mimiWielki** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:30 am

Thx for all comments,
dougal2 : I did this visualisations for jaro.slaw and with tv it wasn't my idea.

Vanessa07: I always try to bevel edges, but this time I hurry up.
You get right, the chair material is glass, but I don't really know how it change to realistic plastic ( maybe less ior ?)

OnoSendai: I'am using Indigo 1.0.4 and Blender.
BbB: There's a bit too much noise-removal, you get absolutely right. I had to hurry up. I must done 10-12 visualisations in this project in 4 weeks. BbB, you do very good 'photo' by indigo.
ZomB: The blue handle in the bathroom on the first pic is a bug

I know I should change it.

Vanessa07 · Post by **Vanessa07** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:40 am

For plastic I should reduce IOR and add few gain, maybe 5 with very white grey

Kram1032 · Post by **Kram1032** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:58 am

Great image

Crits already where said

The plastic material should be slightly yellow too, maybe... just a tiny bit. less yellow than grey in that white.

How did you get that steam above the coffee?

mimiWielki · Post by **mimiWielki** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:09 am

thenx for tips Vanessa07 and Kram1032

steam is post production stuff

Kram1032 · Post by **Kram1032** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:17 am

No Problem

Ok. That explains it

mimiWielki · Post by **mimiWielki** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:33 am

I do this renders for some interior designer, and I want ask you about price of visualisations like this. I think of 100$ of each, but I don't know is not too much.

psor · Post by **psor** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:39 am

*LOOOOOL*

Sorry mate! But you know what?! I would sell stuff like this
for 900,- Euro each! I'm not kidding. Under 500,- no way ...

I guess you're freelancing right? If you get paid 100 bucks,
then you've nothing left! Think about it a bit further ...

Please consider to register on the Maxwell forum, there is
such a good discussion going on about exactly this topic.

hint: If you sell your self to such a low price, nobody will raise it!

edit: Just to give you a quick inside, at least for the better paid
parts in Europe. If you charge by hour 70,- is a good price to start with.
If you charge by day, it's good to start with 900,- ... it always depends
on you of course and if you're doing freelance work or not. As a freelancer
you have to pay your bills and you do not have a job everyday, at least
not guarantied. But trust me, this is a very difficult discussion anyway.
Especially when it comes to clients that suck and want everything for
free. Something like ...

"Ohh, everything is so wonderful, but we wanna change the red
chair, we don't like it anymore. Could you change it? We need all
seven pictures re-rendered. Presentation is tomorrow ..." *LOOOOL*

Sorry, ... but those should go an ... *censored*

take care
psor

Zom-B · Post by **Zom-B** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:44 am

mimiWielki wrote:I do this renders for some interior designer, and I want ask you about price of visualisations like this. I think of 100$ of each, but I don't know is not too much.

The main reason Such stuff is generated in 3D is to save the money from this über expensive professional Photo shootings!

Overall I would have a fixed starting price for doing the modeling & texturing Job lets say 1500€. then you take 150€ for each "photo" the client actually takes...

I don't know how the situation in Poland is in this business...

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