camera is outside the sky sphere?

crazybelgian · Post by **crazybelgian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:03 am

Hi, I am new to this forum and am very excited about this renderer!
I did search the forum and apologize if it has been discussed already, but i keep on getting the "camera is outside the sky sphere" message and the result is a black sky. (not sure if they are related)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

(i'm using sketchup 5)

Kram1032 · Post by **Kram1032** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:38 am

I've no idea about sketchup, but how far away is the camera to the center of the scene?

crazybelgian · Post by **crazybelgian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:52 am

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure but I guess the center of the scene in sketchup would be the origin. I tried moving the origin to the center of my view and got the same result...

kwistenbiebel · Post by **kwistenbiebel** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:52 pm

Hi Crazybelgian

From one nutcase Belgian to another

: my guess is that OR your 'camera' is positioned below the groundplane, OR your 'camera' is accidentally placed 'in' an object (e.g a wall).
Try to move the cam with the 'walking tool' (=those funny looking shoes) to see if you are stuck.

That's all I could think of.
If this doesn't solve it please post the sketchup view here so we can take a look.

BTW, nice to see more Belgians around here.

Cheers,
Kwistenbiebel

Whaat · Post by **Whaat** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:13 pm

SkIndigo generates an error if you camera is located more than 300 meters from the UNMODIFIED origin. This is the radius of the Indigo's sky sphere. This seems to be a common problem for Sketchup users who may be rendering very large scale models. This can also be caused by using a very small field of view (eg. 1 deg) which has the effect of positioning the camera eye very far away from your model.

Basically, it doesn't seem to matter where you move the origin, the sky sphere is positioned using the unmodified origin. Try resetting your origin (right-click on the axes and select reset) and check the position of your camera. Try increasing the field of view as well.

Since there is no way to change the size of the sky sphere, your only option may be to scale down your entire model so that it fits inside the sphere OR if your model is very far from the origin (which happens often with Google Earth models) you can try moving the model close to the origin.

Ono, if you are reading this, maybe you can add a tag to increase the scale of the physical sky beyond the 300 meter radius.

Whaat

crazybelgian · Post by **crazybelgian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:32 pm

Thanks alot for the great input! I will definately give that a try. (don't have access to the files right now).

Kwistenbiebel - nice to see a talented Belgian architect on this site! Love your work (I'm kind of a lurker at PPB as well)

Whaat - thanks so much for giving us architects the opportunity to create photorealistic images without having to use complicated software. Keep up the good work!

rogallo · Post by **rogallo** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:11 pm

that's what I'm getting.
guess that scaling my models would be the only option for now...

looks like an AKIRA-style nuclear explosion , doesn't it?

Post by **OnoSendai** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:20 pm

lol... You put things *outside* the sky sphere?

manitwo · Post by **manitwo** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:28 pm

LOL - thats my first laugh today - thank you!

rogallo · Post by **rogallo** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:59 pm

yeah.. i wuz kinda trying to figure out WTF am i doing wrong, than i found this thread.
i'm glad it was entertaining

suvakas · Post by **suvakas** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:32 am

radiance wrote:hehe,

it's the first time i've actually seen a sky sphere from the ouside

radiance

Same here. It looks kind of cool !

Suvakas

crc · Post by **crc** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:02 am

I'm still trying to figure out how you did that, it does look cool!!

Did you do your modeling really far away from the skp origin?

rogallo · Post by **rogallo** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:46 pm

Well, the scene was not intended to be rendered with indigo. It's an old project.
I tried to recreate the effect in the first scene from the top. You have to make an object and than zoom out further than 300m away.
nothing special there, plain old stupidity and ignorance

but I've learned my lesson

Kram1032 · Post by **Kram1032** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:26 pm

Ono told me, that 0.7.6 will have a fixed skydome

This effect wont be possible, then....

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