absorption and scattering coefficients for liquids
Rendered with Indigo 0.8. The orange liquids are actually chocolate milk and regular milk. I think they are orange just because the convergence is so slow for this type of scene (10 liquids all with SSS, milk has VERY high SSS). I have tried the same milk values in another simpler scene and the milk seemed to render correctly (using Indigo 0.8).
Back row left to right: apple juice, chocolate milk, cranberry juice, grape juice, chardonnay
Front row left to right: coke, merlot, milk, budweiser, gatorade
All liquids using values for 100% concentration from the PDF I recently posted. Diameter across the top is 7.5cm for all liquids.
Back row left to right: apple juice, chocolate milk, cranberry juice, grape juice, chardonnay
Front row left to right: coke, merlot, milk, budweiser, gatorade
All liquids using values for 100% concentration from the PDF I recently posted. Diameter across the top is 7.5cm for all liquids.
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when i had this problem with milk (yes, the same problem), I changed it to glossy transparent, and it rendered fine. Try it in Indigo 0.9 test 6 and see if it comes out different.
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I don't have the render settings right now but I know I had Bi-dir MLT=on and I think MNCR set to 1000 (I never use lower than 500). I never change the inifile so the settings are the default from Indigo 0.8 stable.OnoSendai wrote:Can you paste the inifile or renderer_settings?
I am now thinking that the orange color of the milk is due to a bi-directional bug. I rendered the milk again with with the same settings and it was orange. Now, I am rendering with bi-dir off and the milk is coming out white. Will post soon.
Remember, these tests are being done with Indigo 0.8 stable...
It could be a bug with bidir, yeah.
It's interesting to note that the absorption colour of milk is more or less orange (i.e. the absorption coefficient is lowest for red light).
What we are seeing in your renders looks something like the milk liquid being rendered without scattering being taken into account. Why this would be the case is a different matter entirely.
It's interesting to note that the absorption colour of milk is more or less orange (i.e. the absorption coefficient is lowest for red light).
What we are seeing in your renders looks something like the milk liquid being rendered without scattering being taken into account. Why this would be the case is a different matter entirely.
Exact same scene rendered with both Indigo 0.8 and 0.9test 6. Only setting that was changed was bidirectional. Yes, gamma is set to 1.0 in Indigo 0.9test6 Hope these screens help, Ono.
Milk on the left, chocolate milk on the right. Properties from Jensen's paper converted to 100% concentration Indigo values.
Milk on the left, chocolate milk on the right. Properties from Jensen's paper converted to 100% concentration Indigo values.
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Thanks for the tests Whaat.
There are two issues in the 0.9t6 renderings. The first is that the non-bidir milk is too dark. I think i have fixed this issue since test6; it was caused by a rather subtle interplay between nudge distances and extremely short mean path lengths in highly scattering media.
No clue about the bidir orange issue tho, will check that out soon
There are two issues in the 0.9t6 renderings. The first is that the non-bidir milk is too dark. I think i have fixed this issue since test6; it was caused by a rather subtle interplay between nudge distances and extremely short mean path lengths in highly scattering media.
No clue about the bidir orange issue tho, will check that out soon
those formulas, where they use "cup" or "tbsp" can be updated
100% is at 23 litres, right?
a "cup" is:
Cup
1 Imp.cup = 2 Imp.gi. = 10 Imp.fl.oz. = 80 Imp.fl.dr. = 4800 Imp.min = 17,338715625 cubic inch = 284,130642624675 Millilitre
1 Imp.gal. = 4 Imp.qt. = 8 Imp.pt. = 16 Imp.cup = 32 Imp.gi. = 160 Imp.fl.oz.
1 Imp.cup = 1,20095 US.cup
1 Imp.fl.oz. = 0,96076 US.fl.oz.
1 US.cup = 2 US.gi. = 8 US.fl.oz. = 64 US.fl.dr. = 3840 Imp.min = 14,4375 cubic inch = 236,5882365 Millilitre
1 US.gal. = 4 US.fl.qt. = 8 US.fl.pt. = 16 US.cup = 32 Imp.fl.gi. = 128 Imp.fl.oz.
Tea cup
1 pint = 2 cup = 3 tea cup
1 Imp.tea cup = 3200 Imp.min = 11,55914375 cubic inch = 189,42042841645 ml
1 US.tea cup = 2560 US.min. = 9,625 cubic inch = 157,725491 ml
1 Imp.tea cup = 1,20095 US.tea cup
or, in metric values:
1 metric cup = 250 Millilitre
1 metric gallon = 8 metric pint = 16 metric cup = 4 litre
1 cup = 200 Millilitre (in Japan)
traditional sake amount:
1 Gō = 2401/13310 litre ≈ 180,39 Millilitre
and the tbsp:
1 US tablespoon = 14.7867648 millilitres
and the one value with tsp:
1 US teaspoon = 4.92892161 millilitres
I found all those in Wiki and Google
I guess, as the tbsp and tsp values are US (99,9999999... % non metric), the used cup also will be the non metric one...
100% is at 23 litres, right?
a "cup" is:
Cup
1 Imp.cup = 2 Imp.gi. = 10 Imp.fl.oz. = 80 Imp.fl.dr. = 4800 Imp.min = 17,338715625 cubic inch = 284,130642624675 Millilitre
1 Imp.gal. = 4 Imp.qt. = 8 Imp.pt. = 16 Imp.cup = 32 Imp.gi. = 160 Imp.fl.oz.
1 Imp.cup = 1,20095 US.cup
1 Imp.fl.oz. = 0,96076 US.fl.oz.
1 US.cup = 2 US.gi. = 8 US.fl.oz. = 64 US.fl.dr. = 3840 Imp.min = 14,4375 cubic inch = 236,5882365 Millilitre
1 US.gal. = 4 US.fl.qt. = 8 US.fl.pt. = 16 US.cup = 32 Imp.fl.gi. = 128 Imp.fl.oz.
Tea cup
1 pint = 2 cup = 3 tea cup
1 Imp.tea cup = 3200 Imp.min = 11,55914375 cubic inch = 189,42042841645 ml
1 US.tea cup = 2560 US.min. = 9,625 cubic inch = 157,725491 ml
1 Imp.tea cup = 1,20095 US.tea cup
or, in metric values:
1 metric cup = 250 Millilitre
1 metric gallon = 8 metric pint = 16 metric cup = 4 litre
1 cup = 200 Millilitre (in Japan)
traditional sake amount:
1 Gō = 2401/13310 litre ≈ 180,39 Millilitre
and the tbsp:
1 US tablespoon = 14.7867648 millilitres
and the one value with tsp:
1 US teaspoon = 4.92892161 millilitres
I found all those in Wiki and Google
I guess, as the tbsp and tsp values are US (99,9999999... % non metric), the used cup also will be the non metric one...
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