Light Labyrinth

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Post by ThatDude33 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:34 pm

Hi! I was just working on a test, Indigo VS :twisted: Maxwell :twisted: :D and, I was rendering a "Light Labyrinth". This is just a little scene to see how light is transported and how Indirect Illumination comes into play.

Anyway- I think I screwed something up about the Maxwell one (but yeah, it's the demo) so I will probably rerender it tomorrow.

Apart from a few normal smoothing issues (which I will turn off on my next render) it looks really good. Cleared up very fast as well.

After 2hrs45mins and 2500 mutations per pixel I got this (all materials are phongs, with a VERY low exponent)

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Which is much faster then the Maxwell 1.0.1 one... cleared up MUCH faster :) :D Nick- YOU ARE DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Xman » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:53 pm

Hi ThatDude33

very nice for the test :D

Did you have answer? Ingido vs Maxwell---which speed quicker
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Post by ThatDude33 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:54 am

Indigo of course :D

rerendering NOW
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Post by Xman » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:59 am

ThatDude33

The NL releases a new Maxwell 1.1, I will test in weekend 1.1 of speed :D
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Post by Xman » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:51 am

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=17022


This is new data, the NL releases new M~W each time, NL always says:We have already modified M~W speed.................. swindler :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by ThatDude33 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:49 pm

maxwell

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Indigo :(

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I'm sorry to say that maxwell won :(
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Post by yponomos » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:22 am

why looking for a winner? maxwell is a commercial package and
you should not compare it with a freeware one.
indigo's quality is very high and this is what matters.

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Post by ThatDude33 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:27 am

oh, I'm not looking for a winner. For me, Indigo is more useable, but I just wanted to test light transport compared to Maxwell.

Indigo glass renders better than Maxwell Glass. I could prove that.
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Post by manitwo » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:23 am

:shock: :shock: :shock:
Ok ... I expected a difference in noise but i I didn't expect that theres so a huge difference in lighttransport and colour.
But hey ... indigo is a still a baby - when indigo is grown up it will be the rocker :twisted:

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Post by ThatDude33 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:37 am

I actually think, now that manitwo pointed it out, that Indigo's light transport is better. Of course, if I cranked up the Iso in Maxwell, then some areas would eb more illuminated.

I think my problem was that on the Indigo one, I used Indigo Diffuse, but on the Maxwell one I used a material with 92 roughness (100 is lambertian).

anyway- I still think that Indigo has true-er Global Illumination.
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Post by yponomos » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:37 pm

i personally don't think there's a huge difference, and actually the case
that the indigo scene is stronger illuminated acts as an advantage for
maxwell to converge faster (or at least the noise is less observable).

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Post by OnoSendai » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:29 pm

Quite an interesting difference in the amount of colour bleeding; apart from that, the two renders are quite similar (altho the indigo one has more noise)

edit: perhaps this is due to the reflectivity of the indigo walls being higher?

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Post by wzn » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:13 pm

To ThatDude33:
Agree indigo's glass renders better than maxwellrender!


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Notice the bottom of cup. It's so dark! Maybe my material is setting wrong...

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Post by OnoSendai » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:03 am

Very interesting comparison Wzn, I think the cause of the dark area in the maxwell render is the infamous 'sunlight thru glass' issue.

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Post by Kosmokrator » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:35 pm

well...im new in indigo its very very promising an of course its free and non comercial it a alpha version...comparing to maxwell its unfair..:)
keep the good work!the unbiased team growing!

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