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New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:46 am
by delle
P.U.R.E. stands for Physically-based Unbiased Rendering Engine.

See here

:mrgreen: :wink:

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:17 am
by dakiru
"Substance" looks interesting :)

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:02 am
by Godzilla
Looks like it doesn't have any exporters available (?)

Also, I saw this on Nvidia's website yesterday, GPU-powered Physically-correct renderer:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/realityserver.html

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:19 am
by Cheesestraws
Interesting that it seems to be a descendant of Virtualight, which used to be quite popular some time ago.

The old Virtualight website seems to be down right now, but you can see it still here, he also wrote a MLT version here.

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:22 am
by gagar
dakiru wrote:"Substance" looks interesting :)
"Simplant" looks interesting as well: http://www.neuro-systems.net/documents/simplant.html

:lol:

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:31 am
by lycium
substance sounds like something i'd like to compete with ;)

in fact it sounds like a overloaded-marketing version of the software i've been writing for some years now...

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:16 am
by juan_irender
Godzilla wrote:Looks like it doesn't have any exporters available (?)

Also, I saw this on Nvidia's website yesterday, GPU-powered Physically-correct renderer:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/realityserver.html
In fact, iray and Reality Server are products of Mental Images, wich is owned by NVidia.

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:18 am
by Borgleader
juan_irender wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Looks like it doesn't have any exporters available (?)

Also, I saw this on Nvidia's website yesterday, GPU-powered Physically-correct renderer:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/realityserver.html
In fact, iray and Reality Server are products of Mental Images, wich is owned by NVidia.
so its simply mental ray with a "gpu flavour" ?

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:54 am
by neo0.
gagar wrote:
dakiru wrote:"Substance" looks interesting :)
"Simplant" looks interesting as well: http://www.neuro-systems.net/documents/simplant.html

:lol:
That looks like very interesting. I should go investigate.

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:56 pm
by juan_irender
Borgleader wrote:
juan_irender wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Looks like it doesn't have any exporters available (?)

Also, I saw this on Nvidia's website yesterday, GPU-powered Physically-correct renderer:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/realityserver.html
In fact, iray and Reality Server are products of Mental Images, wich is owned by NVidia.
so its simply mental ray with a "gpu flavour" ?
No, iray is a new product, a GPU accelerated unbiased renderer:
http://www.mentalimages.com/products/iray.html

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:32 am
by neo0.
I don't know if I would call it a competitor. The lighting on either doesn't look as realistic as indigo, especially iray. In fact, if you look at their office scenes, it almost looks biased..

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:55 am
by dakiru
neo0. wrote:I don't know if I would call it a competitor. The lighting on either doesn't look as realistic as indigo, especially iray. In fact, if you look at their office scenes, it almost looks biased..
I guess, it's about the rendering time in case of iray. Check this.

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:03 pm
by juan_irender
Well, iray is (or may be) fast, but it isn“t a cheap rendering option. Reality Server is based on NVidia Tesla computers, a scalable computing solution.
Indigo is in another league, more flexible, more friendly, and... more unbiased :wink: .

Cheers!

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:03 pm
by psor
Not only that. Who knows how much horsepower they are using there. And when you see
Indigo, lux, maxwell, fry, ... blah ... on a lots of cores rendering over network you'll crap your
pants too for sure. How do I know? Stack-Studios had a software called RemoteMatador
which evolved into Felix and is using Maxwell as backend. David Rossmann aka daros,
always said something like "Manpower is much more expensive then hardware" and he is right.

I don't have the videos that show off rendering at the moment but take a look at Felix ...



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Not to advertise his service but that's a quote ...
daros wrote: A test image (600x300 pixels) FELIX costs more 'or less 30 cents and usually takes 15 to 25 seconds.

image (1200 * 600) pixel cost about 2 euros and takes less than 1-4 minutes.

image (2000 * 1000) pixel cost about 7 euros and takes less than 2-6 minutes.

image (3000 * 2000) pixel costs roughly 14 euros and takes 4-15 minutes.

Here some more pictures and the thread at Treddi.com. And what I can say is, that a smart
person is doing something like that for luxrender now. Cause there is no license fee and much
more flexibility then all others can offer. So I keep smiling about iRay. ;)


My two cents. Stay flexible! 8)










take care
psor

Re: New competitor for Indigo ? P.U.R.E.

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:26 am
by CTZn
On-demand renderfarming is something Ono and Ben mentioned multiple times here already, it is certainly an option adding flexibility.