Electric Guitar [update page 2]

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Electric Guitar [update page 2]

Post by doublez » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:17 am

My first project rendered in indigo, an electric guitar...
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Post by Vanessa07 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:32 am

Looks better and better, very good :o

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Post by BbB » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:48 am

Nice to see it clean and clear.

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Post by doublez » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:05 am

Thanks guys; I'm rendering an updated version right now (I forgot fret markers), so I'll post it in a few hours...

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Post by Zom-B » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:16 am

yes, this work evolved nicely...
but from 1.000.000+ possible camera setups you chose
the most boring one :cry:
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Post by doublez » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:06 pm

Thanks ZomB. I'm open to suggestion, what do you think would look good for a camera angle?

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Post by Kram1032 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:25 pm

I can imagine an even more boring one:
If you slightly shift the cam and let it look down.

Interesting:
- up-looking cam (makes the guitar incredibly big)
- cam that's rotated a bit ( breaks up some lines)
- slightly from the side ( adds depth)

so, shift it down and sidewards and rotate it in the other directions + a bit around the viewing axis^^ Don't get too extreme, though. That could destroy the whole thing ;)

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Post by 5OnIt » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:38 pm

I think you should model a simple guitar stand to set it on. It would add to the realizm.

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Post by xrok1 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:40 pm

points to ponder:

if we're in the finished artwork thread, dosn't that make the guitar scene finished? :lol:

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Post by doublez » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:40 pm

I'll try modeling a stand and move the camera around, etc and see how it looks, post if it looks good, then I'll be done and I'll finish a project I've had started for a few months.

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Post by Zom-B » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:30 pm

doublez wrote:Thanks ZomB. I'm open to suggestion, what do you think would look good for a camera angle?
I hope I wasn't to harsh, you did some nice modeling work dude,
now its time to do a nice "photo" of it ;-)


Here some example i found for interesting camera angles:
example 1
example 2
example 3

etc. just search the CG Society Gallery for guitar to get some camera angle inspiration


Also an more "artistic" intergration with the Backround could be nice, like here:
example a
example b

An combined 3 Picture Series of some close Up details using "extreme" angles an some nice DOF could be possible too...

Otherwise keeping your camera angle you could enhance your picture easily by using the golden cut!
Simply skipping the standard 4:3 format an using for example a 9:16 format to fit your scene is no shame, but the way to go...

finally I would work on the tonemapping, or first on the light color Setup of your picture. A 3 point light Setup with colored lights can add some nice atmosphere here an example.

Your Picture is atm way to redish... to warm colored.
some warm/cold contrast using lights or an colder BG color would enhance your pic. Some contrast in shapes could be nice too (for BG vs FG) but this is more advanced and not always usable.

here your guitar color corrected, and cuted off the boring empty room on the sides:
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Post by Kram1032 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:07 am

9:16 isn't the golden cut, though...
It's more like 8:13 or even closer 13:21 ;)

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Post by Zom-B » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:19 am

Kram1032 wrote:9:16 isn't the golden cut, though...
It's more like 8:13 or even closer 13:21 ;)
Sorry I'll expressed myself not very good here, I thought about skiping the "standard 4:3" aspect ratio of the output image...

I'll correct this!
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Post by Kram1032 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:08 am

well... 16:9 isn't that far off, but it's not one of the best approximation.
The fibonacci values are the closest possible natural numbered approximation values :)

they're shaped like this:

start = 1
0 + 1 = 1
1 + 1 = 2
1 + 2 = 3
2 + 3 = 5
3 + 5 = 8
...
and if you divide them by each other, you get the two golden rations :)
9 is close to 8
16 is close(ish) to 13
so 16:9 or 9:16 should both be pretty close

The exact value is (sqrt(5)+/-1)/2 ;)

it comes from the the equivalation 1/x=x-1, which can be shaped to a quadratic equivalation ^^
x²-x-1=0

the exact values are 1.618... and -0.618...

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Post by doublez » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:49 am

xrok1I missed your comment... Yeah, I guess it does.

ZomBNot at all, I wasn't really even thinking about the camera angle, size, etc. I came up with a new camera angle I think I like based off what you and kram said. I'll let it render for a few hrs and post it.

Kram1032I don't really get what your saying. The best ratio is equal to 1.618 or -.618?

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