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clarinet

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:40 am
by Anthor
I tried simple shader (thank's SmartDen :) )


I'm not fully satisfied, any suggestion is welcome

Ciao :)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:20 am
by cooler_inc
Clarinet looks pretty, but I don't like the table material similar to skin

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:06 am
by eulgrand
cooler_inc wrote:Clarinet looks pretty
+1

I like the "Blender" pen too.

The paper bump map could be scaled up a bit (looks wet).

I wonder what Tokio Hotel sounds like played on the clarinet... Not sure I want to hear though !

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:17 am
by Kram1032
eulgrand wrote:
cooler_inc wrote:Clarinet looks pretty, but I don't like the table material similar to skin
+1

I like the "Blender" pen too.

The paper bump map could be scaled up a bit (looks wet).

I wonder what Tokio Hotel sounds like played on the clarinet... Not sure I want to hear though !
+1

or alternatively, scale the bumpmap, if it actually is one, down a LOT.... though, only if that doesn't show tiling too much.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:22 pm
by Zom-B
A Great Image, but the only and main critisism is the articial look due to the perfekt shaders etc.

Besides the wet look paper and the human Skin Table, I also think you can mostly enhance the look of your paper!

Besides changing from Tokio Hotel to some proper Artist, I would'n let the paper look so perfekt. Try instead of the bump map some subtile deformations (maybe displacement), they catch light & shadows better than a bump, at the corners the paper coud be bend upwards a little etc.

I would also try some very small and subtile bump Map on your paper.
But the Pro way would be a very, very subtile blend between a very light phong and a diffuse material. check out this tutorial for the technique!

Also you could try to use another little more reflective shader for the inked parts of the paper, but the gain should be also very subtile!

Your instrument shader looks also to uniform to me. Try adding a exponnt Map for the bumpy parts using he bump map to get some more organic look & Feel for this mat!

Some subtile aditional lights to generate some interestings highlights & reflectons + shadows could be worth a try too ;-)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:35 pm
by Doug Armand
The desk/background texture looks fine - looks to me like leather. It's the colour thats really making it look 'human'. Try a real nice dark brown :D

I also agree that the bump texture on the paper needs to be scaled up - you really just want a hint of it as well.

Also - I ahve no idea what a clarinet really looks like or how it works but you have a hole, for making musical noises with?, that has nothing metallic over it - unlike all the others. A mistake?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:16 am
by MadSwede
Speaking as someone who've played the clarinet for a number of years and have a father who is a former woodwind repairman, the whole instrument looks rather strange.

I can't quite see what kind of reed would fit into that mouthpiece and the ligature is put on the wrong way around. Parts of mechanisms appear to be welded together and I'm afraid it looks quite off overall.

Another thing is scale. That's either one large paper or a really small clarinet. :) That's not too important however, as miniature clarinets could exist (never seen one though).

Thirdly, lower the bump on the body of the instrument. Most clarinets are made out of hardwood or plastic. At the moment it looks as though it was wraped in leather (intentionally?).

I hope you keep working on this. I've never been able to muster enough courage to attempt modelling one. Just because of the complexity of the mechanics and the damned ammounts of springs and fundaments. Take a good look at several reference images if you can't get a hold of a real one.

Good luck.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:44 am
by eulgrand
I knew I had seen this logo somewhere. It is a Buffet-Crampon, isn't it ? I worked during several years for a company In Mantes-La-Ville, France, just a few hundred meters from their factory.
http://www.buffet-crampon.com/en/index.php
Some pictures on their sites, unfortunately no close-up (as far as I could see).
:wink:

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:11 am
by Kram1032
Oh and a tip, if that isn't already the case here: the 80% white (0.8 grey), often mentioned as upper limit actually is paper-white. So, if it's not already the case, change your paper's white to 0.8 ;)

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:42 am
by Anthor
Thanks for all the suggestions, it is necessary for their translation (my English is poor). :wink:

However, it is partial, it is much more complex (for me), are also ingnorante in the field of music, I just like his sound :D :D

I'm working on

Happy 2009 :D

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