Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by arc en ciel » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:22 am

OnoSendai wrote:
kotov_meow wrote:Hello, i wanted to try it out but seems like this beta dont like AMD Phenom cpu's, since the trial of 3.8 had worked like a charm (just to mention it).
The 4.0.30 crashes just on startup. even on older INTEL-CPU's as it seems.
Looking foward to further beta-states.
Hi,
What's your exact CPU model?
We raised the minimum CPU requirements to SSE4.1 support, so it looks like AMD phenoms are too old.
Hello,
same limitations. AMD Phenom X6 is SSE4a compatible only.
play fast and loose with just old CPU.

Test using 780M on I7 4700 MQ :
Indigo 3.xx
1050spp_1058ksps_Bidir_20mn
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/cloche ... r_20mn.png

Indigo 4
1141spp_4251ksps_purGPU_5mn53s
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/cloche ... 5mn53s.png

around 4 times faster !!
it looks like bump or displacement are not working, isn't it ?
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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by lycium » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:26 am

Bidirectional on CPU versus GPU single-directional isn't really a fair / meaningful comparison, they are quite different and bidir gets better images for same number of samples per pixel.

Bump and displacement should be working ok, only that displacement can use quite a lot of memory, which can fail due to running out of memory (common on the Intel iGPU).

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Silverwing » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:27 am

Oh nice. I did the same test again.
I now got 10.300 Samples/Sec.

Preparation time was done in 20sec instead of 60sec.

Great work there!

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by pixie » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:11 am

Silverwing wrote:Oh nice. I did the same test again.
I now got 10.300 Samples/Sec.

Preparation time was done in 20sec instead of 60sec.

Great work there!

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by OnoSendai » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:12 am

pixie wrote: You don't want to adopt me? :P
:)

Silverwing: please try the McLaren scene again!

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by arc en ciel » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:07 am

lycium wrote:Bidirectional on CPU versus GPU single-directional isn't really a fair / meaningful comparison, they are quite different and bidir gets better images for same number of samples per pixel.

Bump and displacement should be working ok, only that displacement can use quite a lot of memory, which can fail due to running out of memory (common on the Intel iGPU).
Fairly test - i7 4700MQ - Nvidia 780M, 4GB - C4D
Indigo 3.xx
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/cloche ... 5mn49s.png
Indigo 4.0.30
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/cloche ... 3mn47s.png
Indigo 4.0.31
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/cloche ... 3mn31s.png

faster, but I lost displacement and probably supersampling

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by davide445 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:30 am

Mclaren: 2.409 Mp/s
Bedroom: 1.398 Mp/s

HD7950Boost. Only the bedroom scene it's comparable result vs other test, +19% speed.
Didn't noticed improvement in the kernel building time, both of them was short anyway.
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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Oscar J » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:35 am

davide445 wrote:Mclaren: 2.409 Mp/s
Bedroom: 1.398 Mp/s

HD7950Boost. Only the bedroom scene it's comparable result vs other test, +19% speed.
Did you run the test for long enough? Also have you tried the updated McLaren scene?

arc en ciel: I'm pretty sure supersampling works - where is it supposed to be displacement?

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by davide445 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:49 am

Oscar J wrote:
Did you run the test for long enough? Also have you tried the updated McLaren scene?
600 spp both of them, but in the first test I did changed the camera position in your scene so I suppose it's no more comparable (this one leave standard settings).
3.263 Ms/p optimized scene (didn't noticed it), +36% vs old scene on same .31 Indigo build.

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Originalplan® » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:17 am

Originalplan® wrote:Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300
OSX .10.11.4
Oscar: 4.270 M/s
Arthur: 0.447 M/s
Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300 - Indigo 4.31- 3min_TEST

Oscar old scene 869.06ssp_4.632M/s
Oscar New Optimized scene 1391.31ssp_6.236M/s
Arthur scene 339.67ssp_1.924M/s

Better,Faster ,Pro job!! :)

RENDERS on the link: https://infinit.io/_/ffAN69r

@Ono did something change in the save out png code? Lightroom went crazy when i imported the pics for resizing....thats why they are on a link now.

PS: 100th post :P

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by arc en ciel » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:36 am

Oscar J wrote:...
arc en ciel: I'm pretty sure supersampling works - where is it supposed to be displacement?
extracted from previous images
displacement
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/Displa ... goV3V4.jpg
noisy zone (supersample ?)
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/noise_ ... leV3V4.png

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Originalplan® » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:39 am

arc en ciel wrote:
Oscar J wrote:...
arc en ciel: I'm pretty sure supersampling works - where is it supposed to be displacement?
extracted from previous images
displacement
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/Displa ... goV3V4.jpg
noisy zone (supersample ?)
http://reelmotion.free.fr/images/noise_ ... leV3V4.png
its because of UV + scene size. Had the same problem.
Actually the V4 version is correct. Change the scene size ( in rendersettings in C4D or 3D editor you use)
But maybe its not that,worth a look.

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Oscar J » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:44 am

Originalplan® wrote:
Originalplan® wrote:Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300
OSX .10.11.4
Oscar: 4.270 M/s
Arthur: 0.447 M/s
Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300 - Indigo 4.31- 3min_TEST

Oscar old scene 869.06ssp_4.632M/s
Oscar New Optimized scene 1391.31ssp_6.236M/s
Arthur scene 339.67ssp_1.924M/s

Better,Faster ,Pro job!! :)

RENDERS on the link: https://infinit.io/_/ffAN69r

@Ono did something change in the save out png code? Lightroom went crazy when i imported the pics for resizing....thats why they are on a link now.

PS: 100th post :P
Actually I think it's fused that's working on the image saving options. There are 3 core devs remember. :)
Nice bug reporting so far btw!

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Zom-B » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:51 am

arc en ciel wrote:it looks like bump or displacement are not working, isn't it ?
It should work fine mate.
But what is not working at the moment are normal maps, and your scene looks like it uses them and not displacement at all!

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Re: Indigo Renderer 4 public beta

Post by Originalplan® » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:56 am

Oscar J wrote:
Originalplan® wrote:
Originalplan® wrote:Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300
OSX .10.11.4
Oscar: 4.270 M/s
Arthur: 0.447 M/s
Mac Pro - Double -AMD FirePro D300 - Indigo 4.31- 3min_TEST

Oscar old scene 869.06ssp_4.632M/s
Oscar New Optimized scene 1391.31ssp_6.236M/s
Arthur scene 339.67ssp_1.924M/s

Better,Faster ,Pro job!! :)

RENDERS on the link: https://infinit.io/_/ffAN69r

@Ono did something change in the save out png code? Lightroom went crazy when i imported the pics for resizing....thats why they are on a link now.

PS: 100th post :P
Actually I think it's fused that's working on the image saving options. There are 3 core devs remember. :)
Nice bug reporting so far btw!
Thank's Oscar i try my best. Fused i heard that name before......but why am i picturing a laughing white little cloud? (just messin around) :D.
Nice scene optimizing! You need to teach me some tricks sometime.

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