Mysterious happenings
Mysterious happenings
Hi
Given that currently cindigo for Mac can only launch an instance at a time, the problem will be fixed soon, the image was first launched with exporter "Render by Indigo" then as "Render to picture viewer".
It all happened almost simultaneously.
After 15 hours are obvious different between the two images.
It seems that do not travel both at the same speed.
You may notice noise still remaining, reflections on the glass is not completed, eccetera.
How do you explain?
Given that currently cindigo for Mac can only launch an instance at a time, the problem will be fixed soon, the image was first launched with exporter "Render by Indigo" then as "Render to picture viewer".
It all happened almost simultaneously.
After 15 hours are obvious different between the two images.
It seems that do not travel both at the same speed.
You may notice noise still remaining, reflections on the glass is not completed, eccetera.
How do you explain?
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Rendering so early testrenders for 15h seems quite... excessive!contegufo wrote:After 15 hours are obvious different between the two images.
Also as explained in other threads, please use PT BiDir for rendering, its the better choice most of the time
Best to doublecheck the CPU utilization of C4D vs Indigo, maybe the last one grabs the majority of the CPU time!?contegufo wrote:How do you explain?
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Hi
If I replace the lights in the ceiling with as many maps IES and the sun with an environment map can get improvements?
Thank you!
If I replace the lights in the ceiling with as many maps IES and the sun with an environment map can get improvements?
Thank you!
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Sorry I don't get that questioncontegufo wrote:If I replace the lights in the ceiling with as many maps IES and the sun with an environment map can get improvements?
Are you referring to renderspeed/noise or general quality improvement of your output?
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Yes!
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Re: Mysterious happenings
You can't answer to "A or B" question with "yes" matecontegufo wrote:Yes!
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Hi
Thank you, I solved the problem.
Thank you, I solved the problem.
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Re: Mysterious happenings
After starting the thread you owe us to tell where the issue was coming from, so other users can learn from it toocontegufo wrote:Thank you, I solved the problem.
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Hi
The mysterious problem was temporarily resolved by reinstalling Cinema4DR15 but could not say if Indigo is also co-responsible, or is the fault dell'exporter.
It 'also possible that CPU power is not divided equally.
Mah!
However because the glass windows were not important I removed.
But other problems have appeared........
The mysterious problem was temporarily resolved by reinstalling Cinema4DR15 but could not say if Indigo is also co-responsible, or is the fault dell'exporter.
It 'also possible that CPU power is not divided equally.
Mah!
However because the glass windows were not important I removed.
But other problems have appeared........
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Hi contegufo:
I think its not a problem of the calling. Its a sampling artifact that will vanish over time.
Just a general thing.
It would be really nice if you would provide more information to your renders.
The more information you provide the better users like Zom-B can help you
What would be really interesting to know on your last images would be the rendering time and the algorithm you used. If you were using C4D or did export it to the "Standalone" etc.
Cheers,
Raphael
I think its not a problem of the calling. Its a sampling artifact that will vanish over time.
Just a general thing.
It would be really nice if you would provide more information to your renders.
The more information you provide the better users like Zom-B can help you
What would be really interesting to know on your last images would be the rendering time and the algorithm you used. If you were using C4D or did export it to the "Standalone" etc.
Cheers,
Raphael
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Silverwing is right, it's box noise, an issue that the developers have been working on but not yet completely eliminated. Those little boxes will disappear with longer render time (form my experience they're usually gone once you hit 500 - 1000 spp), or by using MLT if you're impatient (though that will make the normal noise stay longer instead).
If you for example want to render two renders over night to equal quality, just set up a rendering queue and put a halt time or halt SPP on each one.
If you for example want to render two renders over night to equal quality, just set up a rendering queue and put a halt time or halt SPP on each one.
Last edited by Oscar J on Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Mysterious happenings
This box noise are (afaik) QMC artifacts, and something that (afaik) GPU rendering will be free of
I recently just found a nice workaround how to prevent them quite well!
Instead of using diffuse materials like for walls etc. use a Phong with IOR = 1 and Exponent = 0.
I recently just found a nice workaround how to prevent them quite well!
Instead of using diffuse materials like for walls etc. use a Phong with IOR = 1 and Exponent = 0.
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Re: Mysterious happenings
Hi
The same shot presents artifacts in version of INDIGO 3.8.25.
Using the next version 3.8.26 are absent.
I used these settings: Path with Bidir. SS = 5
The same shot presents artifacts in version of INDIGO 3.8.25.
Using the next version 3.8.26 are absent.
I used these settings: Path with Bidir. SS = 5
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Re: Mysterious happenings
I don't think they're completely absent in version 3.8.29. Since the patterns appear sort of randomly, my guess is that you just got lucky this time, or that you rendered for longer.
By the way, what tone mapping do you use? I think you could get much better results with for example camera tone mapping.
By the way, what tone mapping do you use? I think you could get much better results with for example camera tone mapping.
Re: Mysterious happenings
I experienced Tone mapping = Camera.
But I think you have a better chance of correction in Photoshop; right?
But I think you have a better chance of correction in Photoshop; right?
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